Band Aid field director confirms Aid Abuse

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Sorry Bob, Band Aid millions DID pay for guns: Charity’s man in Ethiopia tells his disturbing story.. Will Bob Geldof eat his hat - and keep his promise to sue the Ethiopian government? dailymail.co.uk

By Zoe Brennan, 9th March 2010 - Bob Geldof is furious with the BBC for reporting that his charity unwittingly funded weapons for warlords. So what’s the truth? Here Band Aid’s man in Ethiopia tells his disturbing story.

The images of starving children flickered across the screen - youngsters hardly conscious, possessing not even the energy to bat away the flies descending on their emaciated bodies.

BBC broadcaster Michael Buerk described the scene in Ethiopia 1984 as ‘the closest thing you get to hell on earth’. The famine pictures awoke the conscience of the world. A year later, Britain was host to the biggest fund-raising event of all time, Live Aid.
Who can forget it? At Wembley, and in Philadelphia, pop stars including Queen, David Bowie and George Michael were part of a dazzling line-up determined to feed the world.

And Bob Geldof demanded: ‘Don’t go to the pub tonight - please, stay in and give us the money. There are people dying NOW, so give me the money.’

Money poured in. The 16-hour rock concert on July 13, 1985 raised around £65million and was watched by a global audience estimated at 1.5 billion.

It was a moment of hope. But that was then.

Now the BBC has reported that substantial amounts of money - some of it raised by Band Aid - were siphoned away from relief efforts and went to fund guns for Ethiopian warlords during the Eighties.

Bob Geldof has responded with a vitriolic attack, dismissing the story as ‘total b******s’ and accusing the BBC of a ‘total collapse of standards’. He has branded the BBC World Service a ‘rotten old cherry’.

He said: ‘Produce one shred of evidence, one iota of evidence, and I promise you I will professionally investigate it, and I will sue the Ethiopian government, who were the rebels at the time, if there is any money missing, for that money back now.’
He added: ‘Let me be specific. There is not a single shred of evidence that Band-Aid money was diverted. It could not have been.’

So just what is the truth? And where did the money raised by Band Aid go?

Today, for the first time, the Band Aid man on the ground in Ethiopia speaks out exclusively to The Daily Mail, saying he believes it is possible that up to 20 per cent of donor’s money went to fund the rebels.

Furthermore, he told me that he personally sympathised with the rebel cause he calls ‘a liberating force’, and travelled in convoys he suspected were transporting arms to them.

John James was Band Aid Field Director in Ethiopia from 1985-91 and was awarded an MBE for his charity work. He says: ‘I would be surprised if it were any less than 10-20 per cent of funds were diverted to the rebels.

‘Did I sympathise with the rebels? Yes. We would not have tolerated any direct assistance in the purchase of arms or condoned it, but just remember it was a highly complex situation.’

James, a farmer who is now 85 and living in Devon, adds: ‘I think it is ridiculous for anybody to claim that not one penny of aid money was diverted.

‘You couldn’t help the hungry in the rebel-held areas without helping the rebels. You have to be realistic about that. It is probable that some money was diverted to buy arms. I believe a just use was made of the money. I think it fulfilled the interests of the donors.’

He recalls travelling on a rebel convoy, which he suspected carried arms, saying: ‘I didn’t know what was in the heavily sheeted tarpaulin load of the lorry in which I travelled, and I didn’t ask. I would be surprised if it had not contained arms.’

Aid money: Was Max Perberdy fooled by Gebremedhin Araya and Tekleweyni Assefa?
To understand just how explosive his recollections are, let us turn to the BBC report that unleashed Geldof’s temper, and caused ripples of alarm to reverberate around the world of charity fundraising.

Former rebel leaders told the World Service’s respected Africa editor, Martin Plaut, that they posed as merchants in meetings with charity workers to get aid money.

They say that their organisation, the Tigrayan People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) used the cash, meant to pay for food for the starving, to fund attempts to overthrow the government of the time in a bloody civil war.
One rebel, Gebremedhin Araya, estimated that $95 million (£63m) of aid money from Western governments and charities, including Band Aid, was spent on weapons and the political machinery of the rebel party. He believed just $5 million (£3m) was used to help locals.

James agrees with Araya that some money found its way into the rebel’s hands - but denies it was the $95 million quoted. He believes that there is a ’strong probability’ that five to ten per cent of funds was diverted for arms by the TPLF, and a further five to ten per cent used by them to finance their political ‘hearts and minds’ campaign - totalling up to 20 per cent.
If this is the case, by his own estimation, about $2m of aid money was misused.

So just how did Band-Aid money, given in such a wave of goodwill, come to fund guns?

At the time, the Ethiopian government was fighting rebellions in the northern provinces of Eritrea and Tigray.
It was the height of the Cold War. The Soviet Union, aided by Libya, poured $4billion into Ethiopia, sending 600 T-62 battle tanks to help the government fight rebels.

Dozens of giant Antonov An-22 military transport aircraft arrived, delivering a mighty war-chest of fire-power.

The communist leader Mengistu Haile Mariam - later found guilty of genocide - embarked on The Red Terror in 1977. He burnt rebel villages, and thousands were herded into churches which were set alight in appalling scenes of brutality.

Women were systematically raped, and the streets of the capital Addis Ababa were littered with the corpses of hundreds of child victims.

The rebels fought on - but they were out-gunned. They were kitted out with old Italian World War II machinery.
Then came the famine and huge amounts of Western aid arrived. Much of the countryside, where it was needed, was under rebel control. Some was in the form of food, some as cash.

Max Peberdy, a charity worker from Christian Aid, carried nearly $500,000 in Ethiopian currency across the border in 1984, which he used to buy grain from merchants. His story is central to the BBC claims. He insists the money he carried fed the starving.
But the merchant Peberdy dealt with was Gebremedhin Araya - who claims he was, in fact, a senior member of the rebel TPLF.
‘I was given clothes to make me look like a Muslim merchant. This was a trick for the aid workers,’ says Araya.

Taking advantage of the fact that the aid workers conducted just a random sampling of the grain bags purchased, Araya placed sacks filled with sand under the grain. He says he handed over the money to his leaders, including Meles Zenawi - now Ethiopia’s prime minister. Zenawi refuses to comment.

Former TPLF commander Aregawi Berhe supports Gebremedhin’s version of events. Now living in exile in the Netherlands, he says the rebels put on a ‘drama’ to get the money. ‘The aid workers were fooled,’ he says.

A candid black and white photograph from the time has come to light, graphically showing the set-up.

There is Peberdy - the cliche of the sandal-wearing foreign aid worker - opening a satchel full of Western cash, which is being counted by Araya and Tekleweyni Assefa, director of the Relief Society of Tigray (REST) - a group which was, in effect, run by the rebels.

BBC correspondent Rageh Omaar worked in Ethiopia in the early Nineties. He confirms the situation: ‘REST was undeniably the humanitarian wing of the rebel movement. Of that, there is no doubt.

‘The relief agencies had no way of knowing whether the official buying grain for them from REST was an independent local aid worker, or a member of the rebel group posing as one. The TPLF is the most ruthlessly organised and efficient guerilla group I have ever encountered.’

The BBC says that Band Aid’s accounts show that it gave almost $11million to the society and other groups close to the rebels.

In response to questions from the Daily Mail, a spokesman for the Band Aid Trust said: ‘Grants totalling $7,207,723 were provided to REST between 1985 and 1991.’

The CIA, in a 1985 report, also alleged aid money was being misused and ‘diverted for military purposes’.

Plaut, who reported from Africa in 1985, spent almost a year researching the documentary, and the BBC is standing by his report.
For its part, the Band-Aid Trust has said it will report the BBC World Service to Ofcom and the BBC board of directors.

Surely, then, they are keen to disprove the allegations. On the contrary, when approached by the Daily Mail, The Band-Aid Trust proved extremely reluctant to hand over its accounts.

Charity Commission regulations require them to keep accounts for only six years.

Eventually, the Trust passed on accounts dating back to 1995. The files for the previous decades are archived, they say, and not available for some time. They could perhaps then be viewed - at a cost.

After much probing, some further figures are released by accountant Joe Cannon, with a message: ‘Please note that there will be professional time costs for extracting the relevant information and responding to your emails, which will need to be recharged to the Daily Mail. We will forward full details of these costs to you in due course.’

In fact, the Trust proves elusive on every point - it does not have an office, questions have to be put, through its accountants, in writing to the trustees, who will decide if they deign to reply.

They do not reply. Hardly the transparency expected of a major UK charity.

After the extraordinary success of Band Aid, Geldof pledged to spend 20 per cent of the money on emergency relief, 20 per cent on logistics, and 60 per cent on long-term development.
Around £43 million was spent in the first year. Despite scrutiny and the efforts of charity workers in the field, it would have been impossible to account for every pound. In the years up to 1992, some £100 million was raised and spent.
So just what do the accounts show since 1995? Band Aid has made a large number of grants to different organisations. Its stated aim is the relief of hunger and poverty in Ethiopia and the surrounding area.
In 1995, it gave £231,808 to SOS Sahel, a development agency that works with herders and farmers in Africa.
The following year, Farm Africa received £25,000 and Oxfam £100,000. In the years to date, grants of up to £500,000 have been made to charities including Christian Relief & Development Association (an Ethiopian charity), UNICEF, Sudanese Relief and Water Aid. A total of £75million was handed out up to 2004.
Towards the 20th anniversary of the concert, Band Aid experienced something of a renaissance. The charity set up a trading subsidiary Woodcharm Limited, to handle royalties from a re-released DVD of the concert, and an auction of signed instruments donated by Band-Aid members.

Now, however, the charity is under fire. The aid agency world is understandably upset at the row - not least because tales of aid money paying for arms could cause donations to decline.

‘If we were being conned, I think it was on a very small scale,’ said Stephen King, who oversaw charity work in the region at the time.

Peberdy categorically denies being tricked, saying: ‘We routinely monitored the trucks shipping aid across the border. The claim made by Araya is frankly absurd.’

Penny Jenden, director of Band Aid at the time, backs up Peberdy’s statement. ‘If this money had been diverted to rebels and not used to buy food you would have had thousands of people lying dead at the side of the road. The fact that there was no major death toll clearly demonstrates that the money was not diverted.’

Christian Aid has also refuted the allegations.

Others disagree, however. Richard Dowden, former Africa Correspondent for The Economist and director of the Royal African Society, tells me: ‘I would be astounded if some of the money had not been used by the rebels. That is what happens in these situations’.

Indeed, the UN reported last week that up to 50 per cent of food aid in neighbouring Somalia is being stolen.

Perhaps, then it would have been wiser for Geldof to have been more measured in his response to the claims.

He has now tellingly conceded in a radio interview - which was very small print compared to the ferocity of his initial outburst: ‘It’s possible, in a war zone, in one of the worst wars, the longest-running wars in the 20th century, in a famine area, it’s possible of course, that some monies were mislaid.’

David Anderson, Professor of African Politics at the University of Oxford, says that it is naive to claim no money was diverted by warlords.
‘You can’t work in a warzone without some risk that you are giving money to some of the bad guys,’ he says.
He believes Geldof was upset because news reports of the BBC programme have made it sound as if 95 per cent of money raised by Band Aid was diverted by rebels.

‘Of course, that is not true,’ he says. ‘The programme claims a proportion of the money going into a small area of Ethiopia was diverted to buy arms. They claim that as much as £7million went astray.

‘That sounds a lot, but it is a tiny proportion of the total amount of aid that went into the region.’

He adds: ‘Some of the Band-Aid money will have been siphoned off, and we will never know how much went missing. That much we know.’

Now, John James has brought us far closer to knowing the truth. Whether Bob Geldof will eat his hat - and keep his promise to sue the Ethiopian government - is another matter.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk

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  • 19 Responses to “Band Aid field director confirms Aid Abuse”

    1. Gigi Says:

      They weren’t even using or taking the money that was handed to them. They were
      also making money from the charity people that was there at the time helping people, making money off of them
      by selling sands instead of food for the money they where paying to get food for the starved.also selling the food aid to some one els though if they were selling it why not
      for the starved? that leavs a big question to me.

      if you put all of this reports together that is the picture you get.

    2. neocolonialist Says:

      Geldhof , bono, bla bla. Why dont these people help us get rid of the governments that are repressive enough to starve their own people? They make one or two statements against the governments and bluff us. They see what is happening in ethiopia and do nothing about the Gov. but always try to give food and aid money. Ethiopians don’t need your aid period. They need good governance. Bob Gelhof should try to be Bob Marley, not “Bob Accomplice”. Bob Maley once said, ” the rich man’s way is in his city, the righteous way is in his holiness”. Bob Geldhof and Bono try to show their holiness and will never have the caliber of such artists like Bob Marley. Get it Bob G.

    3. Gigi Says:

      What i think of it if they wanted to make more money, they can’t get way with selling sand to some body
      except people in that kind of situation. that also is the case whether they were doing that while they had the aid food and money or not.

      the fact is they wore making money off of the starved people.

    4. Sosina Says:

      Mr Bob Geldof got his punch for not keep quite about for the abuse. Now lets see how he will investigate the government of Ethiopia by himslef as he said. Judge Bob Geldof, we are awaiting for your personal investigation. LOL

    5. Yalem Dagnaw Says:

      Last night I watched a report on Eri-Tv the man (Gebremedihin Berhe) speaking on the tape, and there were some people who were also part of the story, but Gebremedihn was the main guy who is the story itself. The tape was recorded some twenty years ago, and in that tape Gebremedhin tells with passion how he was told to go and dress up like a merchant and ordered to receive loads of grains from TPLF main headquarter, which was stolen from Port Sudan by TPLF. He was given specific instructions to lie about his name, and he has many pictures to prove his side of the story, besides the picture BBC showed where he along with another main TPLF insider and a white guy counting money.

      BBC should ask the Eritrean information ministry to pull out the tape and show it to Bob Geldof if he is having hard time believing he was dupped. The tape als contains a white guy in it.

    6. Allula Aba Nega Says:

      At the beginning it was 95% and now it went dawn to 20-10%. I am counting dawn with a cheeky smile on my face.

      neocolonialist,
      One hand you are biting the hand that feed you, at the same time you are kind of begging to be spoon feed.Which one are you?You don’t have to answer the question i already settled with the the second one.

      Gigi,
      Passing the sand as a grain story is like selling ice to an Eskimo.

    7. why mee? Says:

      Gigi you are nuts!
      please tell us why you?

      you are just an idiot WEROBELA you are harassing this forum. Get out!

    8. Abebe Belaye, PHD SE, PE Says:

      TPLF was not able to deaft the derg without the money. period

      “The rebels fought on - but they were out-gunned. They were kitted out with old Italian World War II machinery.
      Then came the famine and huge amounts of Western aid arrived. Much of the countryside, where it was needed, was under rebel control. Some was in the form of food, some as cash.”

    9. Truth Says:

      Yalem Dagnaw - you have the main point so why you inform the BBC or any other concerned body what you saw and how/where the info is found.Please do it for truth.
      thanks

    10. DigEthiopia Says:

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    11. Abebe Belaye, PHD SE, PE Says:

      US condemns Ethiopia for VOA jamming
      Published: Friday March 19, 2010

      The United States condemned Ethiopia’s blocking of Voice of America broadcasts, calling the country’s accusations of the US radio service “baseless and inflammatory.”

      Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi earlier admitted to jamming the US government-funded VOA broadcasts in Amharic, saying he was prepared to censor the broadcasts because of the service’s “destabilizing propaganda.”

      He said Ethiopian authorities had been testing jamming equipment although there had been no formal decision to block the US radio station.

      But Washington said Addis Ababa was already jamming VOA transmissions in Amharic, Ethiopia’s main language. The United States “opposes” the move, US State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said in a statement.

      The Ethiopian leader also compared VOA to Radio Mille Collines of Rwanda, which incited the population to exterminate minority Tutsis during the Rwandan genocide.

      Duguid condemned the comparison to the infamous Rwandan station.

      “Comparing a respected and professional news service to a group that called for genocide in Rwanda is a baseless and inflammatory accusation that seeks only to deflect attention away from the core issue,” he said on Friday.

      “The prime minister may disagree with news carried in Voice of America’s Amharic service broadcasts; however, a decision to jam VOA broadcasts contradicts the government of Ethiopia’s frequent public commitments to freedom of the press.”

      He noted that the Ethiopian Constitutions upholds people’s right to freedom of expression “without any interference” and that freedom of the press includes “prohibition of any form of censorship.”

      “We look to the government of Ethiopia to abide by its constitution,” Duguid said.

      Addis Ababa often accuses VOA of bias toward the opposition and of attempting to foment chaos in the country.

      The Horn of Africa nation holds elections on May 23, but human rights groups have accused Meles’s regime of instilling a climate of fear ahead of the polls.

      The New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) has condemned Ethiopia for “maintaining hostilities.”

      “Invoking the Rwandan genocide is an excuse to silence legitimate criticism and scrutiny. The Ethiopian government used this reasoning to crack down on the country’s once-vibrant Amharic press after the disputed 2005 elections,” said CPJ Africa Program Coordinator Tom Rhodes.

      “As Prime Minister Meles Zenawi stands for re-election in May, we urge him to show leadership on constructive reforms to make press freedom, as guaranteed under Article 29 of the Ethiopian constitution, a reality.”

    12. dagme Says:

      ወዲ ዜናዊ ሰሞኑን ከግራ ቀኙ የሚሰማበትን ክስ እንደ ልማዱ ያለማቅዋረጥ እየዋሸ ማስተባበያ ሲሰጥ ላየው አስራሁለተኛው ሰአት ላይ የደረሰ ያስመስለዋል:: ወያኔ ደደቢት በረሃ በነበረ ወቅት ለ ተራበ ህዝብ በተሰጠው የ እርዳታ ገንዘብ ጦር መሳሪያ ገዝቶበታል ለተባለው በወያኔው አባል በወያኔው ቭላ /ፓርላማ/ በወያኔው ማይክራፎን ለተጠየቀው ሲመልስ ..የሌለ የልጆች ተረት ሲተርት ውሉዋል..ንጉስ ጠንቅዋይ ጋር ሄዶ መቼ ትሞታለህ ቢለው .እኔ ከሞትኩ በህዋላ የሚል…..ፍየል ወዲያ ቅዝምዝም ወዲህ አይነት መልስ ሰጥቶበት. ጉዳዩን አልፎታል.. ::ምኑን ከምኑ እንዳገኛኘው አላውቅም….በተጨማሪም ስንዋጋ የነበረው ከ ቀድሞ መንግስት በማረክነው መሳሪያ ብቻ ነበር እንጂ በ ግዢ የተገኘ አልነበረውም ብሉዋል::ተረቱ ባልከፋም ነበር…ትርጉም የሌለው ሙልጭልጭ ያለ ለህጻናት የሚነገር ነው አይደለም ፓርላማ ተብዬ ትልቅ ቦታ ቀርቶ. ወያኔ ወያኔ ከቀድሞው መንግስት ጋራ የከፋ ውጊያ ቢጤ እንክዋን በወቅቱ አድርጎ ነበር ወይ ያ ሁሉ መሳሪያን ታንክን ጨምሮ በወቅቱ ሊማርክ የቻለው እንደ አወራሩ ከሆነ ማለት ነው…ማለት በ 1977 ወይንም ከዚያን በፊት ?? ..እስቲ ይሄን የምታውቁ በቦታው የነበራችሁ መልስ ስጡበት…እኔ እንደሚመስለኝ ግን ብዙም ከበድ ያለ ጦርነት ከወያኔ ጋር የ ቀድሞ መንግስት እንዳልነበረው ነው : የማስበው:: እናም ጦርነቱ እምብዛም ካልነበረ ያ ብዛት ያለው የጦር መሳሪያ የተሸመተው በ ጥሬ ገንዘብ ነው ወደ ማለት ያስኬዳል….ወዲ ዜናዊ የተነሱበት ወቀሳና ተጠያቂነት ያላቸው ወንጀሎች ከ አለም ዙሪያ እሱን እና እሱን ብቻ የሚመለከቱ ቢሆኑም ..አጅሬ ግን ..ነገር የህዋልዮሽ በመጠምዘዝ …ስለ ሚደረገው የምርጫ ድራማ ተዬን ለማሰናከል የመጡ አድርጎ ..ከ አገር ጉዳይ ጋር ያያይዛቸዋል::ወዲ ዜናዊ ወንጀል ሰርትዋል ማለት ለመሆኑ…ጸረ-ሰላም ሃይሎች ገለመሌ ምናምን ያስብላል?ራስ ስጠየቁ አገር እንደታመሰ አድርጎ ጉዳዩን ከህብዝብ ጋር ማያያዝ ለምንስ ይጠቅማል….

    13. mamaye Says:

      Bob:

      It is time to put ur money where ur mouth is at. Expecting your law suite soon.

    14. Gemechu Gobena Says:

      Gigi,
      I was just wondering if You can tell us the best way to remove Melese?
      Thank you

    15. gomoraw Says:

      ወያኔ ሌባ መሆኑ ምን ማስረጃ ያስፈልገዋል? እንኳን በጦርነት ጊዜ ቀርቶ በጠራራ ፅሃይ ይዘርፉ የለም እንዴ አሁን? ስብሃት ነጋ እቆ ብሎታል:: ከየት ነው የመጣው የወያኔ ንብረት ብሎ ሲጠየቅ:: በለንደንም በሱዳንም የንግድ ተቋማት ነበሩን በዛ ካፒታል ተነስተን ነው:: ንብረቱም የትግራይ ህዝብ ነው ብሏል: እውነቱን ነው በአንድ በኩል; ከተራበው ህዝብ አፍ ላይ ነጥቆ ያከማቸው ንብረት መሆኑ ነው:: ፈስ ያለበት ዝላይ አይችልም እንደሚባለው ሌባው ስብሃት የሚያዝ አልመሰለውም::

      አሁን ምን ችግር አለው ወያኔ ያከማቸውን ንብረት ህዝቡ ይወቀውና እንወራረድ; ድብብቆሹ ሃላ ለምን ይሆን? ቆማጣን ቆማጣ ካላሉት ገብቶ ይፈተፍታል ይባላል:: ወያኔንም ሌባ ካላሉት ዘረፋውን ንግድ; የሚሸጠውን መሬት ኢንቭስትመንት; የሚያሸሸውን ገንዘብ ወጪ የሚያፈናቅለውን ነጋዴ ባለሙስና የሚጋብዛቸውን ወዳጁን ሌባ ነጋዴዎች ኢንቨሰተር እያለ ዘረፋውን ቀጥሏል: ለመሆኑ አሽዋን እህል ብሎ የሚሽጥ ካድሬዎን የ እህል ነጋዴ የሚያስመስል ቡድን እንኳን አገር ማስተዳድር የሱቅ በደረቴ መሆን አልነበረበትም:: ምነው ያገር ልጆች ምን እሲካያደርገን ነው የምንጠብቀው?

      እያንዳንዱ ወያኔ የዘረፋትን የህዝብ ገንዝብ የሚተፋበትመንገድ ይፈለግ:: ፈረንጆቹም በበኩላቸው ይሚዘረፋትን ማወቅ አለበን:: ወያኔ የያዘ ንብረቱን ያሳወቅ:: በሚመለከታቸው የአለም ባለስልጣናት በክኩል የዘረፈውን ገንዘብ እንዲመለስ ይገደድ ዘነድ ማስታወቅ: እዚህ የሚኖሩ ፈቀዳኛ የወያኔ ካድሬዎችን የዘረፉትን መከታተል እጥይቃል: እንቅልፍ ትኝተናል

    16. atuba dolla Says:

      For the past eighteen years members of the crimefamily were on the run because Ethiopians were chaising them.Today,the Zinawicriminals are the most wanted criminals on Earth.Ethiopians,capture the robbers dead or alive,dead or alive,capture the Zinawicriminals dead or alive.Amen and eternal victory for all Ethiopians!!!!

    17. Gigi Says:

      Gemechu.

      It is a matter of choice.

    18. Faith Foster Says:

      George Michael is also a great singer and was quite famous in the 80’s era.”;`

    19. Katherine Campbell Says:

      George Michael have created lots of scandal in the 90s he he*;~

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